Follow the white Rabbit - With Alex Kehaya

Going down the rabbit hole with top experts on the race between surveillance and privacy, and its implications for human rights and democracy.

Latest Episode

November 18, 2020

Episode 24: Brad Kam

We go down the rabbit hole with Brad Kam, Co-founder of Unstoppable Domains. He shares his perspective on how the Internet is broken, increasing censorship of content, and the economic benefits of using .crypto domains.

November 11, 2020

Episode 23: Roneil Rumburg

We go down the rabbit hole with Roneil Rumburg, CEO of Audius, a blockchain music platform that has been called the decentralized Spotify. He shares his thoughts on the struggle between surveillance and privacy, and how Audius has built a censorship-resistant platform for artists to share music with fans.

November 4, 2020

Episode 22: Adriana Hamacher

We go down the rabbit hole with Adriana Hamacher, a senior journalist at Decrypt Media. A fascinating conversation on the future of robotics, crypto’s social impact, and the man who saved Sushiswap.

October 28, 2020

Episode 21: Felipe Erazo

Go down the rabbit hole with Felipe Erazo, a crypto journalist for Cointelegraph. A great conversation on how blockchain is revolutionizing Latin America, protecting human rights, and empowering freedom of speech.

October 21, 2020

Episode 20: Neeraj Khandelwal

We go down the rabbit hole with Neeraj Khandelwal, Co-founder of CoinDCX, the largest crypto exchange in India. He shares his story as an early Bitcoin adopter, how his company is opening gateways to new forms of investing, thoughts on the state of defi, and why the blockchain is key to our economic freedom.

October 14, 2020

Episode 19: David Pan, Coindesk Journalist

Go down the rabbit hole with David Pan, a business journalist for Coindesk covering global stories on blockchain and crypto. A great conversation on Hong Kong’s new national security law, how China is fueling blockchain growth, press censorship in the digital age, and if TikTok is a privacy threat.

October 7, 2020

Episode 18: Alex Gluchowski

We go down the rabbit hole with Alex Gluchowski, CEO of Matter Labs that's unchaining #Ethereum. He shares his thoughts on preserving privacy, how tech is empowering human rights, and what social impact the public blockchain has on the world.

September 30, 2020

Episode 17: Dawn Song, CEO of Oasis Labs

Go down the rabbit hole with Dawn Song, Professor of Computer Science at UC Berkeley and CEO of Oasis Labs. We dive deep into the challenges we face in the digital world, why we are at the inflection point for data privacy, and her vision for building a responsible data economy.

September 23, 2020

Episode 16: Jason Brett

Go down the rabbit hole with Jason Brett, CEO of Value Technology, a D.C. think tank focused on blockchain. He shares his journey through the 2008 banking crisis, the rise of Bitcoin, and how crypto has impacted our democracy.

September 16, 2020

Episode 15: Val Mack

Go down the rabbit hole with Val Mack, a Software Architect at Quant Five and a member of Women Who Code. A blockchain developer & entrepreneur, she shares her insights on compassionate technologies, data privacy, and how to navigate a career in tech.

September 9, 2020

Episode 14: Dr. Juan E. Gilbert

Go down the rabbit hole with Dr. Juan E. Gilbert, Chair of the CISE Dept at the University of Florida. He shares how he’s pioneering the development in open source election systems, the virtual traffic stop, and how disinformation affects our democracy.

September 2, 2020

Episode 13: Brian J. Fox

Go down the rabbit hole with Brian J. Fox, Co-founder of Orchid & the original author of the GNU Bash shell. He shares his open source journey as the first employee of the Free Software Foundation, building Orchid’s VPN protocol, and the biggest lessons he learned as an entrepreneur.

August 26, 2020

Episode 12: Ken Seiff

Go down the rabbit hole with Orchid’s CEO, Dr. Steven Waterhouse and Ken Seiff, Managing Partner at Beanstalk Ventures. They share their thoughts on privacy, the future of democracy, and the dark & light side of the Internet.

August 19, 2020

Episode 11: Richard Muirhead

Go down the rabbit hole with Richard Muirhead, Managing Partner of Fabric Ventures and an early Orchid supporter. A Bitcoin believer since 2013, he shares his ideas about decentralization, the token economy, and the future of privacy.

August 10, 2020

Episode 10: Ben Bartlett

Go down the rabbit hole with Ben Bartlett, an environmental lawyer and a Berkeley City Council Member. The son of community activists he shares his family's rich history and personal fight for freedom. A timely discussion on the future of democracy, personal freedom, and defending our civil rights.

August 5, 2020

Episode 9: David Chaum

Go down the rabbit hole with a forefather of crypto, David Chaum, CEO of the xx Network. A timely discussion on the future of digital currency, election security, and the chilling effects that the decline of democracy has on our 1st Amendment rights.

July 22, 2020

Episode 8: Cindy Cohn

Go down the rabbit hole with Cindy Cohn, Executive Director for the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF), an organization that advocates for our civil liberties and freedom online. A fascinating conversation on the encryption wars, protecting our 4th amendment rights, and EFF’s battle against the dragnet policy.

July 22, 2020

Episode 7: Alexander Lloyd

Go down the rabbit hole with Alexander Lloyd, Founder of Accelerator Ventures, who sits on the board of the Human Rights Foundation, and is one of the authors of “The Little Bitcoin Book: Why Bitcoin Matters for Your Freedom, Finances, and Future.”

A fascinating conversation on how crypto impacts human rights, the history of social activism, restoring Internet freedom, and startup opportunities coming out of the pandemic.

July 14, 2020

Episode 6: Paul Veradittakit

Go down the rabbit hole with Paul Veradittakit, a Partner at Pantera Capital, who’s executed some of the most deals in the blockchain and crypto space. A great conversation on the new decentralized economy, prediction markets, and the evolution of privacy.

July 8, 2020

Episode 5: Jehan Chu

In our fifth episode, we go down the rabbit hole with Jehan Chu, Co-founder & Managing Partner of Kenetic Capital. A great conversation technology integration wars, decentralized apps, the future access of information, and how the world is becoming more tribal.

July 1, 2020

Episode 4: Roger Ver

In our fourth episode, we go down the rabbit hole with Roger Ver, Executive Chairman of He shares his incredible journey as an early investor in Bitcoin startups, his views on the role government should play in citizens’ lives, and the fundamentals of voluntaryism.

June 24, 2020

Episode 3: Jyri Engestrom

We go down the rabbit hole with Jyri Engestrom, a partner at Yes VC, a venture capital firm that invests in startups set in motion by social movements. He shares his journey as a founder of both Jaiku and Ditto, which were acquired separately by Google and Groupon. We discuss the future of democracy, how technology affects humanity, and some recent efforts he and a few other entrepreneurs took to provide free testing for COVID-19.

June 17, 2020

Episode 2: Vinny Lingham

In our second episode, we go down the rabbit hole with Vinny Lingham, South African entrepreneur and Co-founder & CEO of Civic Technologies, a company at the forefront of the digital identity revolution. He discusses his thoughts on data privacy, why we need decentralized systems to protect our identity, whether crypto can displace the dollar, and what lies ahead for entrepreneurs in the new normal.

June 03, 2020

Episode 1: Interview with Rich Staropoli

In our premiere episode, we go down the rabbit hole with Rich Staropoli, whose career reads like a Tom Clancy spy novel. He's the former White House CIO for the Department of Homeland Security and a special agent for the Secret Service for 25 years. He discusses what it was like to protect President George W. Bush on September 11th, his thoughts on the current state of technology at DHS, what cybersecurity risks our country faces, and the future of our election systems.

Alex Kehaya

About the Host

Alex Kehaya is the host for Follow the White Rabbit and the Head of Business Development for Orchid Labs. He’s an entrepreneur, educator, and investor who began his career as one of the first educators to teach lean startup and market validation techniques to high school and middle school students as part of their standard school curriculum. He scaled these programs to over 100 educators through a series of workshops that he ran with the folks behind the Korda Institute for Teaching. Since then, he’s founded numerous software related companies and participated as an angel investor in multiple impact-focused projects.

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